Turning Lunch Into Learning: Tips From a Busy Homeschool Mom

Pam Barnhill [00:00:01]:
Are you ready for homeschooling to feel joyful again? Do you long for support as you learn alongside your kids? Welcome to Homeschool Better Together, a podcast about building a homeschool experience that works for your family. I’m Pam Barnhill, and it’s time to step out of the overwhelm and into the wonder. Let’s do this. Hey there. Hey there. So glad to be with you today. I am joined by just the most delightful friend of mine. Her name is miss Sunny Dallas.

Pam Barnhill [00:00:39]:
And, gosh, Sunny, we’ve been friends for, like, 10 years now at least. Right?

Sunny Dallas [00:00:44]:
I think it was 2016, I think, is when I first met you. So almost 10 years.

Pam Barnhill [00:00:49]:
Almost 10 years. Almost. Okay. Yeah. I I thought it was along about then. Well, Sunny, tell everybody how many kids you have and a little bit about your family because you have such a fun family.

Sunny Dallas [00:01:03]:
Thank you. Okay. I’d be happy to. So, my husband, Nate, and I have been married for over 22 years. And we have 7 children, 6 of whom are boys and one little girl. So our oldest is now, 18, which is crazy because he’s a man child. Yes. And our youngest is, 20 months old now.

Sunny Dallas [00:01:26]:
And we’ve been homeschooling for, this is our 11th year, homeschooling. So

Pam Barnhill [00:01:30]:
Yeah. So for a nice long time. Okay. So we met, like, really close at the beginning of your homeschool journey.

Sunny Dallas [00:01:37]:
Yes. I had a a sweet dear friend who had been homeschooling a little bit longer, I mean, ahead of me. She started a couple years before me, and she introduced me to your podcast from the beginning. So the way that we met, I remember listening to your podcast for a couple years and thinking, her accent sounds exactly like mine. She cannot live too far for me. So then I went to the great homeschool convention and I went to our mutual friend, Sarah Mackenzie’s talk, which is also the first time that I met her. And you were sitting I think you were doing, like, her audio visual or something in the front of the room. And I saw your hair from the back, and I was like, I wonder if that’s Sam Barnhill.

Sunny Dallas [00:02:16]:
And that’s her. I’m gonna go ask her where she’s from. And that was how we met. And sure enough, we live, I don’t know, not even 2 hours away from each other, and that’s that’s how it all started.

Pam Barnhill [00:02:26]:
Yes. That is how that’s that’s always such a fun story because you knew by the accent that we had to live we had to live close to each other. Right. I love that. And Sunny being the extrovert she is, she’s just, like, not afraid to come on up and, like, introduce herself and say, hey. Where do you live? Yeah.

Sunny Dallas [00:02:44]:
What’s that?

Pam Barnhill [00:02:46]:
And then so through the years, we’ve seen each other typically, you know, like, once or twice a year. Sometimes it’s been a little longer than that when you’ve been busy having babies and things like that. But, yeah, it’s all it’s been such a delight through the years to get to spend time with you. We took a trip earlier this year in March. Actually, we’ve seen each other, like, twice this year, so that’s a bonus. Yeah. So Sunny has been homeschooling for a very long time. And if you caught this, with the 7 kids, she has had a lot of newborns through the years of her homeschooling.

Pam Barnhill [00:03:23]:
And so she’s had I think when we met, you had 3 boys?

Sunny Dallas [00:03:27]:
Right. Well, actually, I had 4. I had 4 by that point.

Pam Barnhill [00:03:30]:
Okay. And so you’ve added 3 more since then and, you know, all during your homeschooling journey. You’ve been juggling this stage of life where you’ve had babies, you’ve had toddlers, you’ve had school age, and now you’re getting to where you have high school as well. You said, you know, you’re man child, but you actually have, like, 3 man childs.

Sunny Dallas [00:03:51]:
Yeah. Yeah. Pretty much. Yeah. 2 of them are officially taller than me. So

Pam Barnhill [00:03:55]:
Yeah. Yeah. What is the biggest challenge to this? What is the biggest challenge with homeschooling so many different age groups and always having a baby or a toddler tagging along? Because there’s really never been a time when you haven’t had.

Sunny Dallas [00:04:13]:
You’re right. I would say that you just hit the nail on the head the biggest challenge aside from the fact that this house is full of broken and sinful human beings, myself. The biggest challenge is the the wide age range. When the baby was born, we had one that was learning to drive and apply for jobs. We had 2 that were navigating puberty. I was teaching 2 of them to read, one of them to use the potty, and nursing a baby all at the same time.

Pam Barnhill [00:04:40]:
Mhmm.

Sunny Dallas [00:04:41]:
So I would say, yeah, that that wide age range is is the biggest challenge. And then organizing our time in a way where we can be productive and we’re not wasting the time, but also trying to leave enough free time

Pam Barnhill [00:04:55]:
to where we can be

Sunny Dallas [00:04:55]:
flexible and nourish our relationships. I would say that’s also been a challenge. And every time you have a new baby or the season changes from babyhood to toddlerhood or toddlerhood to school age, and so on down the line, you have to reorganize your time again and you have to Yeah. You know, get this big kid to help out this little kid with this activity and just kinda restructure the whole puzzle. Aside from those challenges, I would say, keeping a check on our attitudes is also a challenge, I think, for all families no matter how many kids you have.

Pam Barnhill [00:05:28]:
This is true.

Sunny Dallas [00:05:29]:
My attitude as well. Most of the kids, I’m I’m sad to hear.

Pam Barnhill [00:05:33]:
And and this is this is so true. This is so true. Well, I wanted to have Sunny on today because in 2023, along about March, we started the Wonderworld podcast. And it wasn’t too long after that, probably, like, 2 or 3 months, I got this message from Sunny. Now, Sunny’s cute because she does not do social media. So she just texts me.

Sunny Dallas [00:06:01]:
And no Voxer. Right?

Pam Barnhill [00:06:02]:
No Voxer. No anything like that. So I get this text from Sunny telling me that how much they’re loving the Wonderworld podcast and that you’re using it in a unique way, and you’re using it in a unique way as part of the bigger thing that you do. And I thought that how you use Wonderworld would be inspirational for other moms who have a big family and who are juggling lots of different people, especially during a season of time that they have a newborn. So tell me what you guys were doing. Not just I mean, it is Wonderworld, but it’s also a lot of other things too, and we’re gonna get into that. But what were you doing with Wonderworld?

Sunny Dallas [00:06:39]:
Alright. So when my 3 bigs were the littles, having a morning time was relatively easy. They were all young. They were similar in age. It was not horror for me to just stop the runnings of the day, pull everybody together, sit around the table and have our morning time. But as they grew older and more and more babies came, it got more and more difficult for me to stop the constant swirl of life that was happening around us and all the needs and all the work, the schoolwork, the housework, the childcare needs, the discipline, the the lessons, the, you know, on and on and on. It got really hard for me to find to to make that all kind of stop for a minute and organize everybody, sit them all down, and just have this beautiful time of, you know, learning about things that were true and that were good and that were beautiful. And so for several years, we went without what I would call an official morning time, but I really wanted to get it, you know, to reinstate it back into our schedule.

Sunny Dallas [00:07:42]:
I just could not really see how I was going to do that unless someone else did all the work for me. So in the end of happening, I thought, okay, well, we’re all gathering for lunch anyway. We happen to all be in the same, you know, room, and I can kind of tag onto that anchor of the day Yeah. Some learning resources. So I found some resources on the Internet that I was just pulling up on the laptop and playing for the kids, whether it be audio, like podcasts or videos and that kind of things from YouTube or whatever. And I realized that it worked really well because there were less interruptions from the kid because they were eating and their mouths were full. Yes. To eat without having to be the one doing all the talking.

Sunny Dallas [00:08:37]:
And so I remember I think I think the text that you were referring to earlier was me maybe nursing the baby with one hand and the wonder world podcast is playing in the background. And I think I panned with my phone, you know, like the head of the baby and then like all the way around all of 6 other kids and you and Olivia are talking in the background. And basically what I did was just set up the laptop on the island in the kitchen where everybody could see it and I can just hit play. So I’m nursing the baby with one arm and I’m feeding the petsel with the other arm all the while you and Olivia and these other resources, you know, that we use as other people, they’ve done all the planning, they’ve done all the gathering of the books, they’ve done all of the research, they’re doing the actual talking about with me. And I could just literally hit play and eat lunch while my kids continued to learn. And so the Wonder World podcast came after those several years of me wishing that I could reinstitute morning time. And basically, that’s what it was for us for a while. It was like our mini morning time that that we could just do during lunch with the room to eat morning at that time.

Sunny Dallas [00:09:48]:
So

Pam Barnhill [00:09:49]:
Yes. Yes. I love it so much, and you’ve hit upon so many key elements here. First of all, their mouths are full. They’re a captive audience. I mean, you could do this during breakfast or you could do it during lunch, and I have a feeling you guys are probably a little more spread out for breakfast, and lunch is the time that you come together. So for families out there going like because my family, we never eat lunch together. But breakfast is something that’s so much easier for us to eat together.

Pam Barnhill [00:10:15]:
And actually, we typically do eat breakfast during our morning time. We actually just finished morning time not that long ago, and we were breakfasting while we were watching the world from a to z. So I totally get this concept of, like, everybody’s attention is captured. And then you also said everybody like, the other people, meaning, in this case, me and Olivia, but then whatever other resources you’re using, they’re doing all the planning for you. They found all the stuff. They’re doing all the planning, and you don’t have to do anything. And then your mouth is not moving, so you’re able to eat at the same time. And for a busy mom, it’s always a bonus when you get to sit down and eat.

Pam Barnhill [00:10:57]:
So, yeah, so many fabulous things all rolled up into that right there.

Sunny Dallas [00:11:03]:
You know, I wanted to mention in case anybody else is wondering how they’re potentially going to implement this in their own homeschools is I had mentioned that I set up the computer where everyone could see it. So, like, if y’all were talking about Mendeleev and the periodic table, I could quickly click over on my computer and pull up an image of the periodic table so that they could all see what it is they’re hearing you talk about, you know, or Monet and some of his artwork and that kind of things, you know, same thing. So that was always a big help too. It’s just like the click of a button instead of me having to literally having not enough hands was my problem. Trying to get all the things done that needed to happen all at once, it felt like. And so just being able to, you know, get the fork down, click the button, pull up the image, whatever, and then they’re continuing to to learn as I’m continuing to tune.

Pam Barnhill [00:11:56]:
You know, I talk about the dangers of multitasking, but sometimes you just got to multitask. And this is one of those places where I think it works.

Sunny Dallas [00:12:04]:
I’m like, where are people saying that? I’m like, y’all, if I did not multitask, people would die. Like, I don’t know. I did not say I need cannot multitask and take care of all these things all the time.

Pam Barnhill [00:12:14]:
Okay. So let’s talk about some favorites. So I was so happy to hear that you guys were listening to the podcast. What were some of the things that the kids liked about it?

Sunny Dallas [00:12:25]:
Certainly. So I’m not I I remember their favorite thing that was ever mentioned ever on the podcast. Let me back up a minute. Okay. So first of all, I limit screen time for our kids much to their dismay. And the vast majority of the screen time that they do get is educational. And we have to you know, we use screens for our math and, for this kind of learning at lunch and that kind of thing. And so the day that it happened to be my birthday, you and Olivia announced that apparently my birthday falls on National Video Game Day.

Sunny Dallas [00:13:00]:
So my kids were like, oh, well, you heard it in his pants. And so shouldn’t we just shut all this down and you just left play the nail game for the rest of it all? So that’s that’s definitely the one they like to bring up a lot and bring up. I enjoy the poems, fables. They do love fables a lot. So sometimes you guys bring that in and tell the story, like Hansel and Gretel and and different things like that. So I would say, that’s probably one of their favorite parts. And they they like a they like a good joke every now and then too.

Pam Barnhill [00:13:35]:
Yes. I think jokes are probably some of my favorite parts. Even though some of them are a little bit grown worthy. We tell dad jokes, but sometimes we just get the giggling. I mean, the outtakes that y’all don’t get to hear are kind of hilarious sometimes.

Sunny Dallas [00:13:51]:
Well, I know.

Pam Barnhill [00:13:53]:
Yeah. Oh, goodness. Okay. So let’s talk about some of the other things that you do because Wonderworld is just one part. Like so, like, you know, love that you’re helping me sing the praises of Wonderworld here, but we also wanna make this practical for parents who are thinking, oh, maybe this is something I could do myself. So what other kinds of resources have you found that you utilize during lunch?

Sunny Dallas [00:14:16]:
Well, you mentioned one that you guys did that learn about from you, which is the world from a to z with Carl Azuz. We’re big fans of that. And then being Catholic, we also enjoy videos with Vonnegut Schmidt. He he does the bible podcast and now he, now he’s doing catechism in the air or he has done it. I just haven’t finished yet. I’m so one, but I’m I’m getting there. And then there is also and the he’s with Ascension Presents. I don’t know if I said that or not.

Sunny Dallas [00:14:45]:
But so there’s the Ascension Presents videos, and then there’s another one that we enjoy called breaking in the habit. And it’s, Franciscan who, tells, you know, like, Catholic jokes and answers commonly asked questions about Catholicism and that kind of thing. So those are some of the other ones. And then there has been a time in the past, and we may do this again in the future. Again, we’re always trying to fit these puzzle pieces together, and so it may find its way back into our lunchtime learning, but we also are a part of classical conversations, and so we have these memory songs.

Pam Barnhill [00:15:17]:
Mhmm.

Sunny Dallas [00:15:18]:
And sometimes we would use the our lunchtime to just listen to the songs to try to get them in our, you know, in the kids’ memories.

Pam Barnhill [00:15:26]:
Yeah. I love that. And there are just so many things you could do. There are definitely audiobooks. There is a plethora of kids’ podcasts, not just Wonderworld. My kids used to enjoy one called brains on, which was a science podcast that they enjoyed a whole lot when they were younger. Then there are all kinds of, you know, just story resources. The kids were talking about and I’m gonna be honest, we never came up with the name of this app.

Pam Barnhill [00:15:53]:
But there used to be an app that we used that had all these stories on it. The kids were just talking about it the other day and just how fondly they remembered that app and all the different stories that were on there. I think that, like, it had, like, all the box car children and and things like that. And you would just push play on it. I cannot, for the life of me, remember the name of this app because it was just like an audio compilation app with all of these different audiobooks, and you paid one price. But you can find things like that out there so that do have the stories. And then YouTube is such an amazing wealth of information. We also watch some of the Ascension Presents videos.

Pam Barnhill [00:16:30]:
We did it 2 years ago in morning time. We watched the father Mike video about 2 to 3 times a week because I find he’s just really great and relatable for teenagers. And the videos the videos are short. They’re like 3 to 5 minutes long. And then I’m sure for our protestant friends, there’s probably like a very similar resource. So you can bring in bible reading, devotional kinds of things. Classical music is another great thing. And then like Sunny said, the audio from memory work and and different things like that.

Sunny Dallas [00:17:00]:
Yeah.

Pam Barnhill [00:17:00]:
So how do you plan out? And it’s okay if you don’t. I mean, that’s it’s totally okay to say that you don’t, but do you do anything? Do you have, like, a running list in your teacher binder? Do you keep, like, a tab of bookmarks? Do you, like, have a schedule? And it’s okay if you don’t, but, you know, just navigate.

Sunny Dallas [00:17:20]:
I think you know me well enough to know that we definitely have a schedule. As far as let go okay. So our schedule, we try to put boundaries on certain activities, okay, and with our time. So we have a block of time that is strictly for getting chores done. And during that time, we’re not trying to also do schoolwork and we’re not also trying to have free time. We are focused on getting our housework done, and everybody’s doing it all at the same time. And then we have a block of time that’s for school. Same thing.

Sunny Dallas [00:17:53]:
We’re focusing on school. Mom’s available for school. I’m really trying not to go switch to laundry, you know, things like that. We’re trying to focus on school and and get that finished up within its block. And then we have, of course, our meal times built in there and our read aloud time. We have rest time, mandatory every afternoon, 90 minutes. Everybody’s quiet in their own spaces. And after a rest time, we have our free time that we do try to preserve.

Sunny Dallas [00:18:22]:
Although some of my some of my kids would say, wait, wait, wait, mom. Sometimes I don’t get that free time because you have me working on this or helping a kid with that or whatever, which is true. But we try to preserve our free time, and then it’s the cleanup at the end of the day and dinner prep, dinner time, bath time, prayer time, bed time. So we definitely have a schedule. I would say that what gets plugged into all of those different blocks is whatever needs to be done. And I am a person who tries to keep things as simple as I possibly can or they won’t happen. It’s the only way that I can get things done for the most part. And so with that comes not a lot of elaborate planning as far as exactly what chores are we doing today.

Sunny Dallas [00:19:07]:
I have kind of a master list, okay, for each day of the week, and it took some time planning for sure in on the front end, but now I just pull that days, or or that days, yeah, tasks out and I assign you know, I just put the initial of each kid on whatever tasks that they’re responsible for. They erase on one side when they’ve done the job, and it’s not really done until mom erases their letter from the other side once it’s been checked, and they have to complete that by a certain time of day in order to get some of their screen time that is so limited.

Pam Barnhill [00:19:44]:
So when it comes time to hit play during lunch though, how much of a plan for that have you actually planned out?

Sunny Dallas [00:19:52]:
I really haven’t planned much of that out. I just know what resources are out there. And sometimes we have a little bit more time, sometimes we have a little bit less time. Couple of my kids are in piano, and their teacher comes 15 minutes after we typically start lunch. So on those days, I have to keep things, you know, really short. And so we just kind of I just kinda see, like, I have I do have a watch later list in YouTube. Actually, I think I’ll call it lunchtime videos. That’s that’s what it is.

Sunny Dallas [00:20:20]:
Lunchtime videos, I have a list of and I can just go and kinda see how long each video is and what we have time for and click on that one and let it go. So if that list is starting to run low, then I’ll try to spend, you know, a few minutes adding to that playlist.

Pam Barnhill [00:20:34]:
Okay. So that’s something you kinda do maybe when you’re nursing the baby or something like that. As you’re sitting there on your phone and you’re adding things to that lunchtime videos list as when it gets slower. And then when you open it up for the day, you just kind of scroll through and look and see how long things are. And then for something like Wonderworld, you know you know it comes out on Monday. And so, you know, I can listen on Monday, I can listen on Tuesday. We’re gonna check the Wonderworld for the week, and then we’re gonna move on to the next thing. Yeah.

Sunny Dallas [00:21:02]:
Well, I know you’re a big proponent. I mean, I learned about loop scheduling from you. And I guess in a sense, there’s there’s kind of a loose loop. I know that it’s gonna be one of these, you know, 4 or 5 different resources, and it’s just a matter of, like, picking the one that sits within the time.

Pam Barnhill [00:21:18]:
Okay. Love that. Okay. So I have a question for you, and we didn’t really talk about this one. We have started linking last year’s Wonderworld episode in this year’s have y’all gone back and listened to any of the old ones? Because each year, you know, it’s the same. It’s always the 3rd week in October. We try to do it slightly different, and we’re linking last year. So have y’all done that at all?

Sunny Dallas [00:21:42]:
Well, we don’t necessary we haven’t necessarily done an order. I do try, I remember when when you did the Hansel and Gretel, for instance. It was kinda split, over several podcasts, and we had been kinda skipping around, but we ended up, like, in the middle of Hansel and Gretel. And I was like, oh, wait a minute. Maybe you need to actually go back and try to do this in order. So, I try to kinda stick loosely to that, but I don’t think I don’t know that we’ve gone back and listened

Pam Barnhill [00:22:10]:
And listened to an old one. I was just wondering because, like, we always link it. I’m like, I wonder if people who have listened to it already would ever go back and listen to it again just because it’s the 2nd week of October again, and they’re different. You know?

Sunny Dallas [00:22:24]:
Right. And then just because we don’t do it, obviously, doesn’t mean that that might not help people.

Pam Barnhill [00:22:28]:
Okay. So you’re telling me you’re kind of a wild child and that you skip around the episodes. Totally shocking, I must say, knowing Sunny Dallas. So here’s the question. Do you ever listen to one when it’s not that week? Do you ever listen to, like, the 1st week of October on the 3rd week of October? Yes. Oh my goodness.

Sunny Dallas [00:22:50]:
That just made, like, the little the little, intro or kind of the overview of what it is. And if there are things that, you know, we may have recently learned about in some other current American School week, then we might listen to that particular episode because it mentioned something that we were already learning about. Yeah. I’ll look like. I I certainly don’t pre read for every every time we do it, but occasionally, I do.

Pam Barnhill [00:23:17]:
Okay. That’s fascinating. I was like, I just you never know how somebody’s using a particular resource. And I’m like, surely, like, after a week’s gone past, it’s it’s old and nobody’s gonna listen to it, but y’all y’all actually do.

Sunny Dallas [00:23:29]:
Definitely do that. Yeah.

Pam Barnhill [00:23:31]:
Do you see your kids making connections with all of this stuff that you’re just kind of putting out there at lunch?

Sunny Dallas [00:23:41]:
Oh, yes. Oh, yeah. I mean, that’s what real learning is. Right? It’s just making connections between all these ideas that we’re presenting to our kids. So oh, yeah. They’re always engaging in things that they’ve learned and, you know, crossing it over with this other thing and comparing things the older they get, and it’s been really cool to watch as the as they’ve grown because when they’re little, you know, they’re just telling you back what they’ve heard. You know? And then as they get a little bit older, they’re starting to wanna understand why. And then they continue as their brains develop to want to then make comparisons about things and how are these things similar and how are they different.

Sunny Dallas [00:24:24]:
And and then being able to actually teach it back to you is just, you know, a real a real joy to watch. And there are plenty of things that that my kids know far more about than I do.

Pam Barnhill [00:24:38]:
Yeah.

Sunny Dallas [00:24:39]:
And I’d say what what surprises me, I think, more than seeing them make these connections because that’s just constant. So commonplace that it’s not really surprising anymore. I would say the thing that’s more surprising is when they already know something that is being, say, presented in the podcast that I’m learning for the first time. And I’m like, where did how did you know that? Where did you learn that? And from this thing that I read or or that video that I watched or whatever the thing is, which just goes to show that as long as we’re teaching our kids how to learn and trying to encourage them to notice things, observe things, and wonder about things. Yeah. You know, there’s no stopping what they’re what they’re gonna learn for the rest of their lives, and that’s just been really, really cool to watch. And then if it’s something that they want to learn, that they found themselves, those are the things that really stick in their memory more than the things that we may teach them because they’re learning about things that they’re interested in.

Pam Barnhill [00:25:37]:
Yeah. I love that so much. And my kids do that all the time. They are constantly just surprising me with what they know that I’ve never taught them, and they’ve learned on their own and that they’re kind of interested. I’m like, I had no idea you were interested in this. And, yeah, it’s just it’s really neat. So well, with the Wonder World podcast, we also have the Wonder Kids Club, which I know you’ve looked at. How could that resource help moms, busy moms who are juggling, like, multiple kids?

Sunny Dallas [00:26:07]:
Well, I would say what I noticed there is that there’s something for everybody. Again, with a wide age range that we have with our kids, there’s really something that appeals to to all the ages there. There’s crossword puzzles or coloring pages. There are bonus audio files and picture studies and and even more. And I would say for a busy homeschool mom, you know, all of that information, all of those resources, again, the work’s already been done. It’s right there. You just click on it and magically you can print it off. You can just have it displayed on the screen.

Sunny Dallas [00:26:45]:
However it is you want to engage your kids with that information and pick and choose what suits your people best, you know, all the way from teenagers to toddlers.

Pam Barnhill [00:26:55]:
Yeah. I love well, first of all, we’ve had people with preschoolers tell us they love like, they want more coloring pages. They love coloring pages especially related to, you know, the topic that their kids listening to something about, and then there there’s a coloring page that goes with this. My favorite are the picture studies.

Sunny Dallas [00:27:12]:
I love those. That’s probably my favorite too.

Pam Barnhill [00:27:14]:
Yeah. You just put up the piece of artwork on that computer screen, and then miss Pam is the one asking the asking the questions, and you hit pause and let the kids kind of notice different things and answer the questions and stuff like that. So that one is always so much fun for for me to record, but also, like, to imagine, like like, this is just a I wish so much that I had had this resource when my kids were 7, 8, 9, 10 years old. You could even use it with a teenager. And, it’s not as novel for my kids because it’s me.

Sunny Dallas [00:27:46]:
Right. Whole

Pam Barnhill [00:27:49]:
thing where, like, somebody else comes

Sunny Dallas [00:27:50]:
and tells your kids something and they’re like, mom, guess what so

Pam Barnhill [00:27:51]:
and so told me? And you’re sitting over here going like, I’ve been saying this forever.

Sunny Dallas [00:28:02]:
So true. So true.

Pam Barnhill [00:28:04]:
But families have told me that their kids like it when I say things too.

Sunny Dallas [00:28:09]:
Because they’ve been able to be you on their than their own mom. Yeah.

Pam Barnhill [00:28:12]:
Exactly. Exactly. Exactly. And then just, you know, the little bonus bits of audio, which I have to tell you every month when I record those, I always learn something new that I 100% didn’t know. And then it’s funny because Olivia and I because the bonus audios always kinda go along with something that are in the podcast. And a lot of times, I’ll record the bonus ahead of time. And then Olivia and I will be recording the podcast and the the bit of tie in information will come up, and she’ll go, I didn’t know anything about that. And I’ll say, oh, let me tell you all about it.

Pam Barnhill [00:28:46]:
I know because I recorded all this audio.

Sunny Dallas [00:28:51]:
Why? So

Pam Barnhill [00:28:51]:
it it’s fun for me to make connections too. So well, Sunny, thank you so much for coming and joining me today and just talking about Wonderworld and how you’ve used this and some of the other resources that you’ve used. I thought it was such a smart way for you to maximize learning time to be able to fit in a version of morning time. And that’s what you told me in that text you sent me. You’re like, Hey, this, thank you so much for wonder world. This is our morning time right now. Cause I got this little bitty baby in my arms. And so I just thought it was so smart and something that a lot of other parents could get some value out of.

Pam Barnhill [00:29:30]:
And we appreciate you being a wonder world listener.

Sunny Dallas [00:29:33]:
Thank you. Thank you for having me. It’s been a pleasure.

Pam Barnhill [00:29:37]:
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